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No HOF for Concepcion

Davey Concepcion did not get into the Hall of Fame during the latest opportunity. Longtime Blue Jays and Phillies executive Pat Gillick was the lone person elected by the Expansion Era Committee, it was announced on Monday.

Needing 75 percent of the 16 votes, Gillick received 13 (81.25%). Marvin Miller was next (11 votes, 68.75%) and Concepcion had eight votes (50%). He needed 12 votes.

“I was pulling for Davey, obviously. I knew it was a 50-50 chance,” said Reds great Johnny Bench, who was on the committee.

Bench said he joked with Ozzie Smith — also was on the committee — that it was “his fault” Concepcion won five Gold Gloves while while Smith won 13.

“When you think about it, Davey would have won 10 Gold Gloves or more (without Smith),” Bench said. “That was what I was trying to convey and I think I probably swayed some pepole. Had I not been there, I don’t think Davey would have gotten a quarter of the votes [he got], quite honestly. but I was passionate about it.” 

As far as other Winter Meetings stuff, Dusty Baker is holding a media session at 2 p.m. After that, there will be some time with GM Walt Jocketty. More later…

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New HOF chance for Concepcion?

A press release from the Baseball Hall of Fame:

(COOPERSTOWN, NY) – Eight former major league players, three executives and one former manager comprise the 12-name Expansion Era ballot for the Committee to Consider Managers, Umpires, Executives and Long-Retired Players for Hall of Fame election, to be reviewed and voted upon at the 2010 Baseball Winter Meetings by a 16-member electorate. The results of the Expansion Era vote will be announced on December 6 at 10 a.m. ET from the Winter Meetings in Orlando, Fla.

Every candidate receiving votes on 75 percent of the 16 ballots cast will earn election to the National Baseball Hall of Fame and will be honored during Hall of Fame Weekend 2011, July 22-25 in Cooperstown, New York.

The 12 individuals who will be considered by the Expansion Era Committee in December for Hall of Fame Induction in 2011: Former players Vida Blue, Dave Concepcion, Steve Garvey, Ron Guidry, Tommy John, Al Oliver, Ted Simmons and Rusty Staub; former manager Billy Martin; and executives Pat Gillick, Marvin Miller and George Steinbrenner. Martin and Steinbrenner are deceased; all other candidates are living.

The 16-member electorate charged with the review of the Expansion Era ballot features: Hall of Fame members Johnny Bench, Whitey Herzog, Eddie Murray, Jim Palmer, Tony Perez, Frank Robinson, Ryne Sandberg and Ozzie Smith; major league executives Bill Giles (Phillies), David Glass (Royals), Andy MacPhail (Orioles) and Jerry Reinsdorf (White Sox); and veteran media members Bob Elliott (Toronto Sun), Tim Kurkjian (ESPN), Ross Newhan (retired, Los Angeles Times) and Tom Verducci (Sports Illustrated).

The Expansion Era ballot was devised by the Baseball Writers’ Association of America (BBWAA) appointed Historical Overview Committee, comprised of 11 veteran members: Dave Van Dyck (Chicago Tribune); Bob Elliott (Toronto Sun); Rick Hummel (St. Louis Post-Dispatch); Steve Hirdt (Elias Sports Bureau); Moss Klein (formerly Newark Star-Ledger); Bill Madden (New York Daily News); Ken Nigro, (formerly Baltimore Sun); Jack O’Connell (BBWAA secretary/treasurer); Nick Peters (formerly Sacramento Bee); Tracy Ringolsby (FSN Rocky Mountain); and Mark Whicker (Orange County Register). 

The Expansion Era covers candidates among managers, umpires, executives and long-retired players whose most significant career impact was realized during the 1973-present time frame. Eligible candidates include: Players who played in at least 10 major league seasons, who are not on Major League Baseball’s ineligible list, and have been retired for 21 or more seasons (those whose last major league season was no later than 1989); Managers and Umpires with 10 or more years in baseball and retired for at least five years, with any candidates who are 65 years or older first-eligible six months from the date of the election following retirement; and Executives who have been retired for at least five years, with any active executives 65 or older eligible for consideration.  

Going from first to third…

Reds manager Dusty Baker was given a sheet that showed the rankings of teams in the category of going from first base to third base on a single. The Reds led the Majors with 25 times, five ahead of the Twins. The Blue Jays were ranked last with two!

“Everybody gets on our base running, but we’ve been really conscious of running,” Baker said. “We’re doing something right. We get thrown out sometimes but we’re first. Imagine when we start hitting. Or that when the guys that can really run start hitting.”

The Reds are batting .282 as a team with runners in scoring position (ranked fourth in NL), an improvement from the .251 mark they had last season. They’re ranked first in the NL by hitting .296 with RISP and two outs.

“That’s why I’m so positive,” Baker said. “In spring that’s what we really wanted to work on. Let’s keep working and keep fighting. My dad always said ‘pressure busts the pipe.’ It’s hard when you’re accepting pressure. You want to be in position to apply pressure.”

“I don’t have a bunch of burners but I don’t have a bunch of plodders either. That’s why it’s so very important that we be patient and help [Drew] Stubbs. Imagine the impact he can have as our premier burner.”

Baker was chock full of paper to prove another point about Stubbs. He had print outs from that showed that Ozzie Smith batted .211 in his second year, then .230 and .222. He had Davey Concepcion, who batted .205 and .209 in his second and third seasons. Mark McGwire batted .201 in 1991.

“In today’s world, they would not have been patient about that. Mike Schmidt hit .196 in 132 games,” Baker said.

“I’m willing to give rope because I know what’s there. I’m known to give rope. I’m criticized for giving rope. You just don’t get it out of everybody at the same rate or the same pace.”

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