Game 126: Dodgers at Reds 

  

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Cueto has the hiccups…
Last 2 G
11 IP
21 H
12 ER
2.00 WHIP
9.82 ERA
Seasonal ERA has gone from 1.82 to 3.95

I think you read that wrong its 2.94 for the season…

You are correct; thank you.

Reds’ Castellini frustrated, but says Price’s job is safe

John Fay, jfay@enquirer.com 2:11 p.m. EDT August 27, 2015

Reds owner Bob Castellini is frustrated.

“Absolutely,” he said. “What did we lose nine in a row? That’s about as bad as it gets. I can’t think of any worse time in the 10 years we’ve owned the club.”

But Castellini said the struggles — the Reds had lost 11 of 12 going into Thursday — will not cost manager Bryan Price his job before the season is over. There has been speculation and rumors since the All-Star break about Barry Larkin being brought in as manager.

“Bryan is our manager,” Castellini said. “We’re not making a change this year.”

Price and general manager Walt Jocketty have another year on their contracts.

“You look at everything after the season,” Castellini said. “But that’s not something we’re going to get into now. Bryan’s our manager.”

Castellini signed off on the first outright rebuilding job of his tenure. The Reds traded starting pitchers Johnny Cueto and Mike Leake at the non-waiver trade deadline. They traded Marlon Byrd last week. Mat Latos and Alfredo Simon were traded in the offseason.

The moves left the Reds with an all-rookie rotation. The rookies have struggled over the 11-losses-in-12-games stretch, putting up a 7.76 ERA.

“I thought the trade with Kansas City was a very good one,” Castellini said. “We’re adding to our pitching staff, to the bullpen and the rotation. We’ll see some of those young players up the first of September.”

Cueto and Leake were Reds for their entire careers. It was the first time Castellini traded away marquee players the Reds signed and developed. They were also on the brink of free agency and out of the Reds’ price range to sign.

“That was very tough,” he said. “Johnny and Mike grew up in the organization. They worked hard. They gave 110 percent and then we had to trade them for economic reasons. It was very, very frustrating.”

The fact he emphasized that Price is their guy “this year”, no change “this year” gives me hope that he won’t be “next year”.

Let’s hope.

Is managing next for HOF shortstops Larkin, Ripken?
Ken Rosenthal
FOX Sports
Aug 26, 2015 at 9:50a ET
The next trend in hiring managers could be a doozy.

Hall of Fame shortstops, anyone?

Barry Larkin appears to stand a better chance of becoming the next manager of the Cincinnati Reds than Cal Ripken does of becoming the next manager of the Washington Nationals. But both ideas, at the very least, are intriguing.

Nats officials, at least for the moment, say that manager Matt Williams is safe — the team is not contemplating a change at the end of the season and not considering Ripken as a replacement. The Nats, however, trail the Mets by 5½ games and Williams is struggling to maintain the confidence of his players, other major-league sources said.

The Reds, tied for last in the NL Central, have started rookie pitchers in 26 straight games, something for which manager Bryan Price is not responsible. But how exactly will the Reds sell tickets next season if they trade closer Aroldis Chapman and right fielder Jay Bruce — or for that matter, even if they do not?

John Maroon, a spokesman for Ripken, said, “Nobody has contacted him so there is nothing to consider. If someone were to contact him he might have something to say but as of now this is all media speculation.”

Ripken, however, recently confirmed to ESPN 980 Radio in Washington that he had “serious discussions” with the Nationals about managing before they hired Williams during the 2013-14 offseason, adding, “it never really got down to the point of choice.”

Rizzo is fond of Ripken, sources say. So is Nats principal owner Mark Lerner, the son of managing principal owner Ted Lerner. The Nats selected Ripken’s son, Ryan, in the 15th round of the 2014 draft.
None of that, however, means the team is ready to consider Ripken as manager. Some club officials attribute the team’s disappointing season to a series of injuries to key players; the Nats’ lineup was whole for the first time on Tuesday night, and the team thrashed the Padres, 8-3.

Williams, though, upset left fielder Jayson Werth on Saturday after failing to include the veteran in his initial lineup, sources said. The two spoke, Williams inserted Werth into the lineup, and Werth went 2 for 4 with an RBI in the Nats’ 6-1 victory over the Brewers.

The incident with Werth might have stemmed from nothing more than Williams trying to take extra care with a player who recently missed more than two months with a left wrist contusion. Werth had similar blowups with the team’s previous managers, Davey Johnson and Jim Riggleman, sources said. But Williams’ problems with his players extend beyond Werth, according to others with knowledge of the situation.

Ripken, during his radio interview last week, said, “I think the world of Mike Rizzo. I think he has done a fantastic job. I like how he thinks. I like how he talks. If you’re looking at a potential position, who wouldn’t want their first managing job with a team built the way it was built? It was interesting discussions.”

Does Ripken want to manage?

“I’ll be 55 this month,” he said (Ripken’s birthday was Monday). “If you look at the stages of your life, that’s not old by any standards, so there’s an opening for a lot of things left in my life, and maybe that’s one of them.”

Ripken, if he chose to manage, almost certainly would prefer to stay close to his home in Maryland rather than move to say, the Midwest or West. But the Orioles, for whom he played exclusively from 1981 to 2001, are not expected to replace Buck Showalter anytime soon. And the Nationals, if they dismissed Williams, might not want another first-time manager.

Williams is one of a number of former players who became managers without any previous experience in the position. Unlike most of those managers, Ripken is not recently retired; his last season was 2001. And unlike Twins manager and fellow Hall of Famer Paul Molitor, who retired in ’98, Ripken has not apprenticed as a coach. Still, Ripken as a player had one of the game’s keenest minds, and he has stayed in touch with the majors as a broadcaster for TBS.
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In any case, the sight of Ripken in anything other than a Baltimore uniform almost certainly would be jarring to Orioles fans, who took pride in the fact he spent his entire playing career with his hometown team.

Larkin would face no such conflicts if he became manager of the Reds; it would be the equivalent of Ripken taking over the Orioles. Larkin, a native of Cincinnati, spent his entire playing career with the Reds, from 1986 to 2004.

Talk at the All-Star break that Larkin could replace Price before the end of the season proved unfounded. But Larkin in recent months has surveyed former Reds teammates about whether they would join his coaching staff if he became manager, sources said.

The Reds are in a period of transition, “rebooting” with younger players. The recent trades of pitchers Johnny Cueto and Mike Leake and outfielder Marlon Byrd were the first steps in that process. Chapman and Bruce could be the next to go; the team is expected to revisit the possibilities of moving them this offseason.

The question for the Reds then will become if they want Price to remain their manager through such a phase, or if they prefer a fresh hire. Larkin, who managed Brazil in the most recent World Baseball Classic and currently serves the Reds as a roving instructor, would be the obvious and perhaps only choice for a new manager.

Both Price and GM Walt Jocketty are under contract only through 2016. Jocketty, who has made a series of well-regarded trades in the past nine months, is close with owner Bob Castellini and likely will remain in his position.

Price, completing his second season as manager after four years as the Reds’ pitching coach, is a different question. Castellini might not want to replace him when he has a year left on his contract. But the Reds’ current homestand, in which they’ve averaged crowds of 25,981 over eight dates, could be a glimpse of the team’s near future.

Since 2013, the Reds’ average attendance has been slightly more than 30,000 and ranked in the top half in the majors. But the team will lack the attraction of hosting the All-Star Game next season and likely will field a roster that is not expected to contend.
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Managers generally do not sell tickets, but the hiring of Larkin would figure to be a marketing coup at a time when the Reds also expect to sign a new local television contract, replacing the current deal that expires after ‘16.

Ripken, likewise, would be marketing gold in Washington.

Two potential openings. Two Hall of Fame shortstops.

It would be a doozy of a trend.

Reds left-hander Sean Marshall has been throwing off a mound every three days throughout the month of August and hopes to pitch again before season’s end, writes MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon. Marshall had his second shoulder surgery on May 20 this year and has not taken a big league mound all season. He has, in fact, only thrown 24 1/3 innings over the entire life of the three-year, $16.5MM extension he signed prior to the 2013 campaign. Marshall tells Sheldon he’s been throwing 35 to 40 pitches per session, including curveballs, in addition to playing long toss. Marshall, a free agent at season’s end, would benefit from getting into games and displaying some form of health in the final month of the season.

Why would we fill a roster spot for Marshall to get some pitching time in September when he becomes a free agent at the end of the year. Surely we aren’t going to resign him for multi- million dollars. I’m not blaming anyone for the contract because we didn’t have crystal ball. But we do now. Let him go and move on. Same with Parra.

Bob C may just go down as the owner of a ball club losing 100 games. That would count as being one of the worse owners in our history. Way to go fellas. Nice job of acquiring talent year in and year out. Fans are not happy Bob!
Start by designating holmberg for assignment and get winker here and could by to skip. Letting the ship sink is shameful. Feels like im talking about Mike Brown

Woops good bye to our boy skippy. Another jocko has been

Reds are 52-74; 36 G left in season. At their current win % of .413 (15-21)
they are projected to end up 67-95. However, with continued losing, they
could increase their loss total. To reach 100 losses, they would have go
10W – 26 L.
Unfortunately, there is nothing out of the question for this team. However,
with that said and the Reds dismal season, I suspect that Price will have a
very long time to think about the Reds after the end of this season. As for
his future, I suspect there will be a number of teams that would hire him as
their pitching coach as well.

The Reds have lost over 99 G in a season only once in their entire history…
1982 – 101L – McNamara
And, at GABP, the most G the Reds lost was in:
2003 – 93L – Boone/Knight
And lastly, at GABP, the most GB was in:
2004 – 29 GB – Miley

Could end up being a season of records. Who would have guessed?

How bout this stat reds fans. Correct me if I’m wrong please. At the 2014 all star break we were 51 to the good, 44 to the bad. A year later, that makes us an outstanding 77 wins 116 losses. Who is in charge of the titanic on joe nuxhall way. We just didn’t start taking on water. Get out the paper bags boys. Bob should not be frustrated he should be furious or seriously embarrassed. And they want us to buy tickets. Yea right. In the words of Bruce Coslet, ” we suck”

Its time the team stops getting a free pass and someone calls them out and write about all their blunders. Call’em out Trent. Would be a great story. We’re going to be laughing stock of baseball. Thoughts anyone? You have to play baseball with your head in the game and these guys play it with their head somewhere where the sun doesn’t shine. Watch the 12 year olds on national television. Its not that hard.

Actually, both your posts point directly at the manager of the team. Allowing this team to just go out and play sandlot ball is not what a professional ball player is paid to do.
These guys are, as you say, playing with their heads…not in the game, and that has resulted in a hemorrhaging of the loss column. That is also why it is imperative to hire a skilled and seasoned manager, post Price, rather than try to trick the fans by hiring a prior player that has absolutely no experience or very limited experience. I don’t think we can take such a cavalier approach as we can ill afford another 3 or more year runs as we have had with a number of failing managers. If we want to get to the dance, we better find an excellent manager with a proven track record.

Can’t bunt today, can’t run the bases all adds up to losing baseball. Your supposed to be ” professionals” for holy cryin out loud. In the words this time of lou pinella, “we’ve seen enough” Also, I’m tired of hearing announcers cry and moan about pitch counts. All you guys must like wine with your cheese. Marty, Thom, Jeff have a cup of shut the you know what. Your supposed to be a professional too. Have some stones and call out our management on behalf of the fans. We’d be thankful for it.

This team is playing like they want to get rid if Price . I believe they have mailed it in . I don’t want the next manager to be a “PLAYERS” manager . I believe that is what Larkin will be . The Reds need someone that will hold players accountable and not make excuses for their mistakes and lack of execution . Scott Rolan may be the man .

I would love to know this. From our core players in the last five years, how many and who we’re drafted by Dan Obrien. That answer may just shock us. Votto was drafted by bowden. Go figure.

O J. I wanted Rolen as a players manager when he was here. Just a pipe dream then. A Jack Mckeon type would be excellent. Knows talent. No bull. Just play baby. If I’m Larkin, I want to be able to pick my rabbits and “fire” at will. I swear some of these line ups are jocko’s. We can say what we want about Jay but these are the facts. No Rbi production from the catching position, centerfield, and i might as well throw in left field. Check out runs scored in the last 10 years on baseball reference. Then check out runs allowed in dustys first year.

Well put RF1.

Dusty got us to 90 wins in 2013 and those boys were satisfied with that and quit on him. I’ll say this about Dusty, when he was first announced he was hired, it was oh my god they hired a dodger. But dusty proved everyone wrong, he brought young guys along and brought respect back to our city. What he doesn’t get credit for is Marty would ask him direct what ifs and he gave logical insightful answers in the pregame radio shows. Anyone they hire won’t be able to carry dustys jock. I miss him.

Isn’t he the one that kept endlessly penciling in Corey Patterson & Drew Stubbs?

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