Price on Byrd joining Reds

On MLB.com, I will have the full reaction on the Marlon Byrd trade to the Reds for RHP Ben Lively from GM Walt Jocketty and Byrd.

Reds manager Bryan Price was also pleased to acquire a run producer and left fielder.

“I’m really excited about it for the obvious reasons,” Price said. “Certainly for the run production since that was an area we struggled with through the injuries and challenges of last year. The theme we’ve been talking about a lot here is having somebody that can really go out there on a daily basis and play the game the right way and add another quality professional to our mix. It makes us better in a lot of ways, not just statistically from a run production standpoint but from the standpoint of how hard we’re going to play and how we prepare. He can help our guys. He’s got plenty of years in the league. If that can rub off on our players, he makes everyone around him better.”

Price believed that Byrd brings intangibles to the clubhouse. He’s been aware of him from years of his teams playing against Byrd at his various stops in the Majors.

“It’s one of those things that just stand out,” Price said. “What the intangibles are beyond the productivity in a particular role. Those to me are always on display for guys who never shut it down. There are a lot of guys that can play hard when things are going well and swinging the bat well or pitching well. There’s a certain energy that emanates from that player. The guys that stand out as true professionals are the guys that continue to play at that high of a level of intensity and aggressiveness and effort when they’re not playing well or their team is not winning consistently. I always noticed that about Marlon that it didn’t matter the circumstances. He played the game hard and he played it the right way.”

Price was asked if he had a lineup in mind with Byrd part of it and did not have one yet. I’d imagine he’ll go somewhere in the middle of the order.

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I hope he is a right handed power hitter,thats what you guys have been missing,maybe the last piece to the puzzle!

What about our pitching rotation. Are we going to have a lot or injuries this year? We have a fresh hope. Go Reds.

There are two statistics that are the essence of the game; RBI and R.
Only one Red had a better combined RBI and R total than Byrd’s
156; Frazier with 168.

GABP…#4…only Rockies, White Sox and Rangers have a more favorable hitter’s park
Park Factor
+121
107 R
135 HR
This means that in the years 2010-2013, Great American Ballpark produced 107 runs for every 100 runs produced in the average MLB park, and 135 HRs for every 100 homers, for a mean Park Factor of 121.
This is an extreme hitter’s park.

So is Citizen’s Bank Park.

Citizens….#13
Park Factor
+102
99 R
105 HR
This means that in the years 2010-2013, Citizens Bank Park produced 99 runs for every 100 runs produced in the average MLB park, and 105 HRs for every 100 homers, for a mean Park Factor of 102.
This park plays close to neutral.

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Great 1st interview with Byrd by the Chickster on WLW. He’s pumped to fill the one missing piece. Sounds like a nice guy.

hope he stays healthy and produces like they think he will. they gave up one of their best prospects for him and more importantly have decided their best outfield prospect winker must spend more time in the minors. don’t give me the he is not ready yet,how can you decide that without giving him a chance to prove it? and it still bothers me that a team that has been together this long needs a babysitter to tell them how to play the game. these guys have been in the majors long enough that they should not need a clubhouse presence to show them. I thought rolen did that when he was with the reds? at least they did not sign the cardinal reject although I still see walt doing that just because he wants to sign everyone that has played for them the last 20 years. he will offer rasmus 6 million instead of the 8 he wants and he will take it.

I’ll take another Rolen or Ludwick. Each of them carried the club for a couple years.

Yes they did . Good point .

no they didn’t! they both had good seasons for the reds and were injured the min. they signed the uncle walt retirement contracts for ex-cardinals. in ludwick’s case he had a great summer with the reds in 2012 which turned into huge contract that he never lived up to. rolen was great for the reds in 2010 but hurt his back signing his contract and was injured most of the time his last 2 years and did nothing for them in the playoffs his last year. face it nobody but jocketty would have given ludwick the deal he got from the reds.the cards knew he was done which is why they traded him to san diego. he sucked with the padres and pirates and turned his summer with the reds into a contract nobody else would have given him. they bid against themselves and it cost them millions while he did nothing the 2 years of the deal. who but walt gives buyouts to players like him and hanahan? seriously the reds had to pay 6 million dollars to not have them suck any more with the reds.

Amen, Metalhead 65. Another example of ridiculous contract extensions that have put the Reds in a bind. Then there’s Walt’s ridiculous 2 year extension. Seems to be systemic problem.

It seems to me that when Walt starts to like a guy it doesn’t matter how old they are he still thinks he is in his prime. I would love to eat my words but I am confident this is an over priced end of his career addition like rolen and ludwick. I get the need to fill the gap but why waste money doing every time. Add these salarys up and you could have a nice player along with youth that you have built up. Just tired of these wasted moves and money.

Rolen and ludwick had great years there 1st year with the reds then got injury proned then was not the same. Winker prolly is a developed major league hitter yet you bring a young guy in to early to let him start and it puts an extra lot of pressures on him to produce. So this is a great deal give him a year at AAA let him get his feet wet win the roster expands at the end of the year then we can see what he can do at the major league level. That’s how I look at it don’t mess with his confidence because he might not produce this year and get sent back down after starting and become a minor league lifer because you tore him down by throwing him in a starting position and to produce when he wansnt ready could really mess with the young man. So that s why I like this trade it’s a buy a year maybe two til he’s ready.

Hamilton
Phillips
Votto
Byrd
Frazier
Mesoraco
Bruce
Suarez

Better than last year. #3 – #7 could be extremely potent.

Here’s a look at some other thought-up lineups from Cincinnati.com…
1. Billy Hamilton (.250/.292/.355)

2. Joey Votto (.255/.390/.409)

3. Todd Frazier (.273/.336/.459)

4. Jay Bruce (.217/.281/.373)

5. Devin Mesoraco (.273/.359/.534)

6. Marlon Byrd (.264/.312/.445)

7. Brandon Phillips (.266/.306/.372)

8. Zack Cozart (.221/.268/.300)

You could also flip-flop Frazier and Mesoraco, or even move Bruce down to fifth.

That would look more like this:

1. Billy Hamilton

2. Joey Votto

3. Devin Mesoraco

4. Todd Frazier

5. Jay Bruce

6. Marlon Byrd

7. Brandon Phillips

8. Zack Cozart

Bruce breaks up the right-handed hitters, and putting him at the five hole moves him further from Votto, making a pitcher face both Mesoraco and Frazier before getting to Bruce, something a walk wouldn’t cure.

Byrd hit 25 homers last season, which is nothing to sneeze at in today’s game, but it’s fewer than Frazier and the same as Mesoraco, who homered at a higher rate.

There’s also the possibility of moving Votto back to the three spot, although he did have success at the two hole last year and many believe the two hitter should be the team’s best hitter, giving him the most plate appearances.

A Votto as the three-hole hitter would look something like this:

1. Billy Hamilton

2. Todd Frazier

3. Joey Votto

4. Devin Mesoraco

5. Jay Bruce

6. Marlon Byrd

7. Brandon Phillips

8. Zack Cozart

The Reds are solidly behind Hamilton at the leadoff spot, and acquiring Byrd is more of a middle-to-bottom order of the bat than the top of the order bat that would have allowed the team to move Hamilton from there.

Of course, you must remember last year’s projected eight Opening Day starters were in the starting lineup together just 12 times out of 162 games, so this is always subject to change.

“Of course, you must remember last year’s projected eight Opening Day starters were in the starting lineup together just 12 times out of 162 games, so this is always subject to change.”
I truly hope this is not the case with the Reds this coming season. However,
Price is pretty fancy-free with the crayon and lineup card.

Can’t understand batting Bruce in front of Byrd. Until Bruce shows last year wasn’t real, he needs to bat 7th. Don’t need a rally killer in the heart of the order.

Starts by spot in batting order 2014:
Player—2nd–3rd–4th–5th–6th
Frazier 49 54 14 28 10
Mesoraco 0 2 53 19 15
Bruce 16 3 57 42 13
Phillips 12 69 19 17 3
Byrd 0 11 21 116 0

From Cincinnati 1530…
…Most 2014 HR NL OF:
1. Stanton, 37
2. J. Upton, 29
3. Byrd, McCutchen, Kemp, 25
Fair to expect 20 HR + from Frazier, Mesoraco, Bruce and Byrd?
How many teams had 4 players with at least 20 HR last year?
Answer: Orioles.
…Byrd’s last two seasons combined
301 games
.277-.328-.476-.800
63 doubles, 49 HR, 173 RBI, 329 K, 66 BB
…Home cooking
Byrd has played 38 career games at GABP
.310-.358-.508-.861, 6 HR
…What others say about Byrd:
“He will play his balls off for you”
“Well liked and respected in the clubhouse”
“He loves playing the game”
“Big into his daily routine, big into nutrition and being in shape guy”
“Solid glove, still runs pretty well”
Wife is a lawyer.
…………………………….
Reds didn’t have to trade for a RH slugger to play LF, they had to…
Reds LF/MLB LF average
.233 BA (24th)……../.256 BA
.288 OBS (27th……./.320 OBP
.339 SLG (24th)/…../.405 SLG
.527 OPS (27th)……/.725 OPS
10 HR (25th)………./17 HR
57 RBI (25th)……../73 RBI

From MLBTR.
By Brad Johnson [December 31, 2014 at 6:45pm CST]

Earlier today, we witnessed what might be the last trade of 2014. The Phillies swapped outfielder Marlon Byrd and $4MM to the Reds for pitching prospect Ben Lively. Here’s the latest related to the move:
•Trade talks were initiated during the GM Meetings in November, writes MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon. GMs Walk Jocketty and Ruben Amaro continued to work closely on the deal over the last couple weeks. Philadelphia’s decision to include $4MM likely played a large role in netting a strong return.
•Reds manager Bryan Price praised Byrd’s intangibles, reports Sheldon. According to Price, Byrd will fill a much needed role of run producer, but he can also help the club build a professional culture. Jocketty also acknowledged Byrd’s work ethic and leadership.
•ESPN’s Keith Law likes the trade for Philadelphia. They continue the much needed mission of rebuilding, and the return is about as good as can be expected for Byrd. The Reds perspective is a lot harder to support. They’re walking a fine line between rebuilding and contending, but it seems like they’re getting the worst of both worlds. For what it’s worth, I suspect the Reds plan to re-sell Byrd at the trade deadline. If he’s not performing well enough to be traded, they can bench him to avoid the vesting option (which triggers in 550 plate appearances).
•Jocketty says the Reds will focus on adding to the bullpen and bench, writes C. Trent Rosencrans of the Cincinnati Enquirer. The Byrd deal crosses left-fielder off the club’s to-do list. I would add rotation depth as another area of concern

If Keith Law is correct, then this whole thing doesn’t make as much sense as I originally thought. Unless the Reds figure Winker will be ready by trade deadline. Will be interesting first half of season.

I believe the deal for Byrd was brilliant. He is a non-problem veteran that takes his work serious. He is very good condition and the youngsters on the team should take notice. He has the power that was absent last season and is an adequate OF. Jocketty got him and $4m; a song and a dance for an OF of his caliber. Byrd is fully incentivized to play well in 2015 or his contract for 2016 does not vest. He can bat 4th-6th in the lineup and given how GABP plays, he should do a great deal of damage. He strikes out a great deal; show me a power player that puts up DBLs and HRs and RBI that he has put up that doesn’t strike out; of course cutting down would be beneficial but not at the expense of his power swing. The bottom line is that we needed a right handed power hitter that could play LF everyday, and we got one. Ben Lively has a chance to be a mid-bottom starter moving forward; not next season. He is rated #8 of our pitching prospects; we need to recognize that none of our best prospects were made part of this deal. Lastly, what Price said was and is very true…
the intangibles, as well as tangibles, that Byrd brings to the team are something that has been missing since Rolen left the team. Any and every baseball person I know or have read attests to this need for a team that is void of a true leader-by-actions. I wanted Justin Upton, but he would have come with an expensive and lengthy contract and price tag, so would nearly anyone else we went after. This deal supports the team, it doesn’t hold the team hostage as a few other deals have. The reality is that we have 5 players that could conceivably hit 20+ HR, now it’s up to them to do what they are paid to do. Once caveat; Price manages the team properly and consistently and not like a sand-lot softball team as he did last season.

So 200 strikeouts are worth the 20 home runs. This is so backwards, I care about getting on base. If you are striking out every 3rd at bat then you can’t help. Oh wait unless they hit a home run every 30th at bat. That is 200ks and 20 home runs and 10ks for every home run. We make such excuses for the home run and we are not even talking 40 or 50 any more now power is 20 to 25 but same amount of strikeouts

Big caveat. Also, another caveat is Votto and Bruce and what they bring to the table in 2015. Another caveat is why haven’t the Reds produced the clubhjouse leader and motivator on their own. Why do we have to trade to find one?

Couple of other comparison statistics – 2014…
* Byrd hit more RBI than anyone on the Reds (85)
* Byrd hit more DBL than anyone on the Reds (28)
* Byrd tied for 2nd in hitting HR (25) – Mesoraco 25, Frazier 29
* Byrd was 2nd in GP (154) – Frazier 157

* Byrd tied for 3rd in R (71) – Frazier 88, Hamilton 72, Bruce 71

I wouldn’t say brilliant. Good perhaps. I think it was probably the only option the Reds had since they have NO money and the available of players left were dwindling fast . The Phillies kicking in 4 million helped too . It is an upgrade. Hopefully it will work out .

Really Reds, why not see if Paul O’neil was still available.

From MLBTR
Yakult Swallows Sign Logan Ondrusek

By Mark Polishuk [January 1, 2015 at 9:30pm CST]

The Tokyo Yakult Swallows of Nippon Professional Baseball have signed right-hander Logan Ondrusek to a one-year contract, the team announced (as reported in The Japan Times). The deal is worth $1.2MM and the Swallows have a club option on Ondrusek’s services for the 2016 season. Ondrusek is represented by Rich Thompson.

Ondrusek, 29, was non-tendered by the Reds last month following a season that saw him post a 5.49 ERA, 9.2 K/9 and 2.63 K/BB rate over 41 relief innings. A .360 BABIP was largely to blame for Ondrusek’s struggles, as ERA indicators such as FIP (3.91), xFIP (3.80), SIERA (3.36) painted a more generous evaluation of his 2014 performance. Ondrusek was arbitration-eligible for the second time this winter, and was projected by MLBTR’s Matt Swartz to earn a $2.3MM salary in 2015

The 6’8″ righty has spent all five of his Major League seasons with the Reds, posting a career 3.89 ERA, 1.93 K/BB rate and a 7.1 K/9 over 270 2/3 IP, demonstrating roughly equal effectiveness against both right-handed and left-handed batters. Though he has only two career saves in the majors (not a surprise given Aroldis Chapman‘s presence in Cincinnati), Ondrusek will be in competition to serve as the Swallows’ closer

Excerpt from article written by Mark for MLB.com…
“I wasn’t really happy with my year last year even though I put up good numbers as far as power and production,” said Byrd, who batted .264/.312/.445. “My batting average went down. My strikeouts went up. My walks went down. I need to get some work in. I took a week off from hitting and started hitting the week after the season.

“I changed my stance a little bit. I was a little bit too wide last year, had too much movement. I was susceptible to the pitch up. I believe if you continue to put hard work in the offseason and continue to get better, you can continue to put up good numbers.”

Good for him. Like the attitude. Blamed himself not someone else and then went to work trying to improve the situation. Hope he does. Now if we can get Bruce and Cozart to have that same attitude, then maybe……………….

Cozart versus Suarez…
Name…………..WAR……DWAR……HR/RBI…………….LINE
Suarez…………..0.4……….0.1………….4/23……….242/.316/.336/.652
Cozart……………2.4*………2.8………….4/38……….221/.268/.300/.568
* highest in career (due to exceptional fielding)

Suarez has only 85 game ML experience with 277 plate appearences. 162 game projection is 8HR/ 44RBI. Cozart has had chance to prove he’s not dead weight offensively and has failed. I say go with Suarez and trade Cozart for some bullpen help.

I don’t have a big problem with Cozart. Would I like for him to hit better. Sure I would but his defense is outstanding . I think we’ve kind of been spoiled with the likes of Concepcion and Larkin . Plus his hitting woes have been more glaring because the people who are paid to hit and drive in runs aren’t . May be the competition will do him good .

This could be Cozart’s ‘do or die’ season. The Reds, and more so the SP, absolutely love his D but his declining O is becoming a concern. If he could/would raise his numbers to .260/.310 the guy would be gold. However, that’s a huge “if”, and with his 8 to 2 over swing on balls low and away, he has an uphill battle. And, the problem has now gotten into his skull in 2014 and he suffered a power outage to boot. He has got to learn to make contact with the ball, hit it on the ground and utilize his God-given speed (never been caught stealing). Coming up a free swinger with some power hasn’t helped this guy, and unfortunately all of MLB knows this, but they also know he is super slick with the leather. I expect a turn around for Cozart in spring training now that he has some direct competition, unless of course, Jocketty has already made up his mind and/or another team is in need and willing to overlook his O.

Hard to get caught stealing when you have as few attemts as he does for ML career. Terrible baserunner from third and only mediocre the rest of the time. 0/4/0/7 SB attempts in ML career. Please, let’s not talk about speed as being a Cozart plus.

There aren’t many Reds that are good base runners .

Cozart’s numbers in AAA…
39 SB
6 CS
87% SB%
Considered to have above average speed

Thanks Neb. Wasn’t aware of AAA numbers. Something terribly wrong with Reds game plans to see the drop from those AAA numbers to 11 total attempts in 3+ seasons. It would have been nice to see him demonstrate his above average speed.

As they say, you can’t steal 2nd from home.

Base running includes more than just stealing bases .

I have read where most of the base running under Baker was a designed play or play that was initiated by the dugout; there was no ‘green lighting’.
2010…93 SB/ 43 CS…68.38% success rate
2011…97/50…65.99%
2012…87/27…76.32%
2013…67/35…65.69%
2014…122/52…70.11%
Price said at the beginning of the season that the Reds would change; they would be a team that steals bases and runs lst to 3rd. I think there was a noticeable difference due to Price’s dictum. However, Hamilton clearly played a major role in the 2014 numbers. If we take him out the numbers look like this…
2014…66/29…69.47%
Pre-Hamilton, the last time the Reds stole any bases of notice was in 2006 (124) and the following year, 2007 (87) due in large part to another rabbit at the time; Mr. Phillips who was in his mid 20’s. Also, a fellow named Lopez equally helped the numbers in 2007.

sorry…2007 (87) s/b…2007 (97)

Thank you Ryan hath . Meathead sounds like a very bitter man .

From Cincinnati.com/John Fay
The Reds didn’t really tell us what they were looking for in a left fielder until they got their man. Walt Jocketty and Bryan Price spent more time talking about Marlon Byrd’s intangibles than what he does on the field.

Jocketty: “The one thing that kept coming back about Marlon Byrd was the way he played the game, the way he went about his business, his work ethic. We take a lot of stock in guys like that.”

Price: “The other thing that we’ve talking about is someone who can go out and, on a daily basis, play the game the right way, adding another quality professional to our mix. It makes us better in a lot of ways — from the standpoint of how hard we’re going to play and how we prepare.”

Those are very nice things to say about Byrd, but it also tells you that Jocketty and Price saw major problems with the 2014 Reds as far as preparation and effort. Veteran leadership can correct that.

Jocketty brought in Scott Rolen in 2009 to do that. The Rolen move was largely responsible for turning around the Reds. They went from nine straight losing seasons to winning 90 games or more three of four years.

Last year was a major step back. It’s impossible to say how much of that was due to the lack of leadership. Skip Schumaker, a player brought in for a veteran leadership role, was hurt or ineffective much of the year. Ryan Ludwick, another player brought in for that role, struggled most of the year at the plate.

None of Reds’ marquee position players — Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips or Jay Bruce — has moved into the leaderhip role. Bruce is best suited for it, but he had his worst year in 2014. It’s hard to lead when you’re not playing well.

Can Byrd have the same effect as Rolen? It’s hard to say. He doesn’t come in with the same type of resume. Rolen had a World Series ring and made a case for the Hall of Fame. Byrd’s been in the postseason once and is a good player.

Leadership in baseball is a hard thing to judge. Rolen was about as far as from rah-rah as you can get, but he played hard all the time. The younger players respected him — and feared him a little bit.

One Rolen story: During his last spring training with the Reds, they were doing a popup drill. That’s about as monotonous as it gets. Phillips was making it a bit more interesting by clowning around a bit. He was still catching every ball but he was doing with total disregard for fundamentals.

“Do not show tape of this to any Little Leaguers!” Rolen shouted from his spot at third. The implication was clear to the younger players: Phillips might be able to get away with this stuff, but don’t you try it.

Byrd realizes it’s difficult to come into a new team and become the leader.

“I’m just one of the pieces of the puzzle,” he said.

But he said he prides himself on playing hard all the time. When a veteran does that, it can’t help but influence the younger players.

So we’ll see. But frankly, one guy isn’t going to change a roster of 25.

Of course, Byrd is going to have to help the offense as well as lead. He should give the Reds a boost. He hit 264/.312/.445 last year with 25 home runs and 85 RBI. And, remember, this isn’t 2000. Numbers are down. Only two National League outfielders had more home runs than Byrd; only four NL outfielders had more RBI. And the Reds left fielders combined to hit .233/.288/.339 with 10 home runs and 57 RBI.

His 185 strikeouts are reason for some alarm. But Byrd was out at the batting cage working on things when he got the call that he had been traded to the Reds.

“I wasn’t really happy with this season, even though I put up a good numbers as far as power and production,” he said. “My batting average slipped down, my strikeouts went up, my walks went down. I need to get some work in.”

That’s the kind of example-setting the Reds are looking for.

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