Riggleman named 3B coach

The Reds promoted Jim Riggleman to third base coach on the Major League team from his previous post as manager of Triple-A Louisville, it was announced on Monday.

Riggleman, 62, will be the only new addition to manager Bryan Price’s coaching staff. He replaced Steve Smith, who was not retained after one season with Cincinnati.

A former Major League manager with the Nationals (2009-11), Mariners (2008), Cubs (1995-99) and Padres (1992-94), Riggleman joined the Reds organization in 2012. He spent one season managing at Double-A Pensacola and the last two seasons at Louisville.

This will be Riggleman’s first full-time on-field job in the Majors since resigned from managing the Nationals in June, 2011 because of a contract dispute. He has been in uniform for the Reds in some September games the past two seasons as an extra coach after rosters expanded.

**UPDATE: I talked to Riggleman about his new job. Read the story by clicking here:

http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/101040304/reds-name-jim-riggleman-third-base-coach

21 Comments

Wise choice. Well seasoned veteran; not only should he be a great 3B coach but also an advisor to the young and unseasoned Mr. Price. Too many rookie management mistakes last season; headed by playing and batting players in multiple positions as if a softball team, coupled with too many days off for a number of players. The proof is in the pudding; we finished the season less than .500 but with a well rested team!

Glad to see this happen. Not only for improvement at the coaching slot, as a wise counsel to an inexperienced manager. If Price doesn’t make it, they have a seasoned coach to step in on an interim or permanent basis.

Hello from montreal Canada nov 10/14

please bring me up to date concerning Joey Votto—-what was going on during 2014 season??- He did not play much at all during 2014—–what is his status- please give me a rundown of year 2014- thanx

allantabac@rocketmail.com Monday afternoon nov 10th

You just get back from outer space? Not hard to follow a player or team by going to Reds.com. Joey been outta commision most of season.

Amen to both comments above. Watched Riggleman first-hand during his stint with the Nat’s while I was still living in DC. Good baseball man. Was no surprise to me or many other Nat’s observers, when he resigned because of the lack of a good, supportive relationship from Rizzo (“disrespect” was the most oft used term). Very unusual, but not surprising. Watched this unfold for several mos. before he finally had enough. Glad to see the Reds give him another chance.

Riggleman has done a good job wherever he has been. He was let go in Seattle when the new GM wanted his own people . Was the issue in Washington
about Dave Johnson ? He can take over in mid season if Price fails again.

Yes. Riggleman had the Nat’s over .500 and headed in the right direction. (That was no inconsequential accomplishment at the time for Washingon.) Plus, the players liked playing for him. However, Rizzo would not even discuss any extension of his contract with him despite his very good performance over the two yrs. he had been on the job. The reason was that Rizzo had Davey Johnson in the wings and wanted him to take the job the next year. So, knowing that he would be out of a job, he elected to resign. And, Johnson replaced him immediately……to no one’s surprise. The old school baseballer’s criticized Riggleman and said that he should have stayed on the job for the rest of the year. He, obviously, felt otherwise. And I don’t blame him one bit. It really did come down to an issue of respect -or lack thereof, in the end. End of story.

Quitter. He will probably resign as a player is rounding 2nd base.

Don’t think so. [See above.] But that’s the knock on his departure. I tend to view it as a matter of self-respect. He’s a good manager and knows the game well.

I respect your point of view, but the fact remains he walked out on his team in the middle of a season over money. No player would get away with that and no manager should either.

Riggleman knew the terms of the contract that he signed and the Washington Nationals had no obligation to negotiate with him just because the team had a record over .500… in June.

To Jordan: Don’t want to prolong this, but the issue was never money. It was Rizzo’s refusal to even discuss his being around after the season. Riggleman would have stayed the full length of his contract had it not been for Rizzo’s attitude (public and, apparently, private) that made him feel that he was being totally disrespected. Many of the fans (me included) had picked up on this during the season, and Riggleman felt he was being publicly hung out to dry. I had the occasion to discuss this at length with Boog Powell while at Camden Yards the day after Riggleman resigned. He took the same attitude that you have. Boog said that he understood my point, but he felt he should have stayed the course. I had been watching this develop over the course of the year, and I sided with Riggleman. His own self-respect was the deciding issue.

To JJFa: Regardless of whether or not you agree with his reasoning, he still walked out on his team in the middle of a season. Imagine if Dusty Baker had done that.

Better yet, imagine if in June 2015 Mat Latos is 8-3 with a 2.75 ERA. He shows up to pitch one day and says, “By the time I walk off that mound, I better have a contract extension or I am out.” The front says that they aren’t going to negotiate until the offseason, so Mat walks out of clubhouse and doesn’t pitch the rest of the year.

Are you still going to defend him because he felt “disrespected?”

I like this choice. I would hope that if the Reds are struggling by AS break, that they would make managerial move with Riggleman taking over. Don’t have a lot of confidence in Price especially after he felt the need to notify Matheny ahead of time why he wasn’t starting some players in a particular game.

To Jordan: Don’t want this to turn into a never-ending treatise, but while I respect your position, I still side with Riggleman. Look, I am an attorney and understand the sanctity of a contract. (Today that doesn’t hold much sway, anyway.) However, Riggleman is from the DC area, and he loved the Nats job. Rizzo’s treatment of him, in the estimation of many observers (myself included), was embarrassing to him. He had been doing a very good job with a mediocre team (at that time). When your employer gives you notice that he is going to replace you at some point, that warm, fuzzy feeling you have for your job (including your motivation to continue) goes out the window. Apparently, his monetary situation was not dire, so he remembered that well-known country western song: “Take This Job and Shove It.” He did this knowing that he might never get another job in organized baseball. I admired his courage. The Reds, hearing both sides of the issue, gave him another chance. After four MLB managerial jobs, he went back to managing at AA Pensacola. He then spent the next two yrs. in AAA with Louisville. Far from packing it in and “quitting”, he did his penance for three yrs. and was rewarded with another trip back to the majors. I admire his courage. He was a “good soldier” all his life and received little reward for doing so. [See his stint at Seattle.] So, he worked up his courage and resigned….to the great surprise of most everyone in the game (but those closest to him). Rather than being a “quitter”, I prefer to look at it in another way: “You Can’t Keep A Good Man Down”. I hope that he gets a chance to succeed with the Reds if Price doesn’t work out. He is a good baseball man and a genuinely good person -from what I have observed in the five or so yrs. I have been watching his career.
You and I are just going to have to agree to disagree on this issue. Neither one of us is going to convince the other of the error of his ways. Cheers!

“Look, I am an attorney and understand the sanctity of a contract.” Then you should understand why Riggleman should have honored his end of the deal.

I know some good attorney jokes.

Contracts are between two WILLING parties. When one party is no longer willing, he/she has the right to terminate the agreement. (The employee has this right, as well as the employer.) There are, of course, consequences for doing so. However , I believe that Riggleman has paid for these. The one-time aberration on his part should not make him subject to a lifetime ban from the sport. [Only Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson (and some of his teammates) have suffered that indignity. What Riggleman did does not have the remotest connection to their transgression.]

All of which is true and none of which contradicts my original statement: Jim Riggleman is a quitter. Having said that, if a man admits he made mistake, shows he is ready to fix it and puts forth a solid effort, then I would be able to move on. I must have missed where he apologized to his team. But, where you and I will disagree is the fact that he never should have put his team in that position in the first place.

Geez, all I care about is if he can wave runners home effectively or not; the last guy couldn’t get it done.
The rest is pure speculation and will play out as the season unfolds.

Thank you . Although I don’t understand why anyone would resign that position , Sport contracts are broken quite frequently. The Reds have more pressing needs anyway .

If I’m not mistaken, there are law practices and lawyers who specialize in getting people out of contracts as well as those who try to enforce the contracts. It’s definetly not as cut and dry as it appears. Hope Riggleman is successful as 3rd base coach and like EricV I hope he waves a lot of runners home who actually score.

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