Defensive honors for Reds, Cueto

The Reds were shutout for Gold Gloves on Tuesday but they received some defensive honors on Wednesday. Their efforts on the field were recognized as Cincinnati was named the Wilson Defensive Team of the Year.

Individually, Reds rotation ace Johnny Cueto won the Wilson Defensive Player of the Year Award for pitchers.

Established in 2012 as the only official defensive award recognized by Major League Baseball, the Wilson Sporting Goods Co., changed its format this year by giving an award to the nine best defensive players at each position among a combined pool of American League and National League candidates and one team award for each league. Previously, Wilson presented its award to one individually selected player for each team.

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2014 Wilson Defensive Player of the Year Award Winners

(P) Johnny Cueto – Cincinnati Reds
(C) Russell Martin – Pittsburgh Pirates
(1B) Adrian Gonzalez – Los Angeles Dodgers
(2B) Ian Kinsler – Detroit Tigers
(3B) Juan Uribe – Los Angeles Dodgers
(SS) Andrelton Simmons – Atlanta Braves
(LF) Alex Gordon – Kansas City Royals
(CF) Lorenzo Cain – Kansas City Royals


So, what is the difference between a gold glove and defensive player of the year ? Saber metrics or have post season awards become too many ?

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Cespedes +…for Cueto…
Cincinnati’s ballpark was designed perfectly to complement Cespedes’ power, and conveniently, Cespedes and Cueto have nearly identical terms remaining on their contracts — Cespedes is due just $10.5 million before hitting free agency next winter. The only real difference between their remaining contracts is that Cueto will be eligible to receive a qualifying offer after next season while Cespedes will not, due to how his contract was structured when the A’s signed him back in 2012, so the Reds would be sacrificing the right to collect a draft pick if they weren’t able to sign Cespedes to a long-term deal.
In addition to the difference in qualifying offer eligibility, Cueto is simply the more valuable player, so the Reds would have every right to ask for additional compensation to even out the deal. So let’s see if we can build a package around Cespedes-for-Cueto that works for both sides.
Clearly, the Reds are going to need some young cheap pitching in the near future, especially if they’re trading away their ace before the season even begins. Reds manager Bryan Price was a well regarded pitching coach before he replaced Dusty Baker in the dugout and has had his fair share of success in turning live arms into quality pitchers, so a talented-but-flawed hurler like Anthony Renaudo or Allen Webster could be of interest to the Reds.
Still, both are pretty raw and neither project as significant contributors in 2015, so neither one should be counted on to fill Cueto’s innings for 2015. To get a guy to fill that spot, the Reds will probably have to spend some money in free agency, and this is where a deal with Boston can really help; the Red Sox are flush with cash and could easily absorb some of the contracts on the Reds’ books in order to give them the flexibility to pursue a free agent starter to fill the void trading Cueto would create.
For instance, the Reds are currently on the hook for $6.5 million to reliever Sean Marshall; freeing up that commitment alone could allow the Reds to go after a veteran innings eater for the back-end of their rotation. The Red Sox have no shortage of available cash, and Marshall represents exactly the kind of short-term risk that they like to take; before shoulder problems cost him most of the last two years, Marshall was one of the game’s most dominant left-handed relievers. So, taking his contract doesn’t just solely provide financial relief for Cincinnati, but also adds a bit of upside to the deal for the Red Sox as well.
From the Red Sox end of the deal, they’d give up some outfield depth, a piece of their stockpiled young pitching, and a little bit of cash in exchange for one of the game’s best starting pitchers and a lottery ticket in the bullpen. The Reds get a left fielder who is perfect for their ballpark and more likely to re-sign for the long-term, as well as a young arm to restock their future pitching depth, and they save enough cash to sign a veteran pitcher to fill the hole they’re creating by trading Cueto away.
A few months after flipping their own ace to get Cespedes, the Red Sox could switch sides of the deal and use the power hitting outfielder to land another frontline starter. The Reds, unlikely to enter a full rebuild with a veteran roster and a bunch of pieces that would be hard to move, get to take one more shot at winning with what they have, and perhaps land a player who they can retain beyond 2015.
Of course, there are a myriad of reasons why a deal like this might not happen, and we shouldn’t expect this trade to actually happen. Plenty of things that look good from the outside fall apart when inside information is added to the mix. Maybe the Red Sox have figured out how to use seven outfielders at one time next year. Maybe Cueto loves cheese-and-meat covered hot dogs, so he will give the Reds a significant discount in order to not be separated from Skyline Chili. But as outsiders, just looking at each team’s strengths and weaknesses, a Cespedes (and stuff) for Cueto trade seems to make a good amount of sense for both sides.

Can’t find article I read on this same subject, but it indicated that the Red Sox would be happy to trade him because the manager, coaches and players didn’t like him. Said he was a “i’ll do my own thing” player, not a team player. If that is true, I wouldn’t want him as a Reds player regardless. Still dreaming of Winker.

Maybe that’s why the A’s got rid of him .

Jocketty told Fay: Reds targeting Aoki and Michael Morse. One with OBP credentials, the other with OBP and pop. Morse appears better suited for GABP, but the kicker will be the contract length; Reds want 2 years max with other young’ns in the wings.

I think the Reds will be making a mistake by underlying OBP, instead of a power clean up hitter that can hit 30+ and 90+. We had a very poor OBP year, yet we also had a host of players on the DL; they will be healthy entering 2015. My take about OBP is not only getting the team healthy, but providing guidance at the plate, or discipline and contact hitting. In my view, this remains a #1 concern and has a direct effect on OBP. What can’t be taught and is a commodity is a power hitter that will be a clear and unquestionable clean up hitter, capable of hitting 30+ HR. The Reds lost too many games by one run, we all know that. With our SP and D we have got to have a thunder maker in the 4 hole, the rest of the team will improve over the last season and with a more mature Hamilton, a healthy Phillips and a healthy Votto in the
set-up position, the emphasis on OBP over a proven power hitter in the 4 hole is overblown. Even when we got guys on base over the last several seasons, we seldom saw games where a number of R were scored. We need…MORE POWER!
Unfortunately, it looks and feels like Jocketty will, once again, be hand cuffed and we will settle for a “fill in” #4 hitter and, once again, pin our hopes on some up and coming hitters. We can’t forget…this isn’t the first time we took this approach; it took a number of seasons for Mesoraco to turn it on.

You are right on the money about Mesoraco. I just hope Mr. price learns to play him at first once in awhile when he’s not catching …………probably not . He’ll probably sit every 5th day again .

Keep hearing Reds want Aoki for lead off. Hamilton is perfect for a leadoff hitter. I believe he will improve his OBP. After all, 2014 was his rookie season. I hope they don’t get Aoki, but go for Morse for the power aspect. If not Morse, someone else with power.

Morse…could also be a liability in LF…
Defense: Huge negative. One of the worst fielders in baseball. He is “so poor” that his defense “overshadows his offensive production” according to Giants analysts.
Conclusion: Morse is going to end up as someone’s first baseman or DH in the American League. His one quality – power – just isn’t enough help for the Reds to take on the issues in LF.

Knew he was not a great defensive player, but didn’t realize he was that bad. If so, I agree we don’t need him.

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